Legislature(2003 - 2004)

04/27/2004 03:11 PM House HES

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HB 434-NATUROPATHIC MEDICINE                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1283                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO.  434,  "An  Act  relating  to  the  practice  of                                                               
naturopathic medicine; and providing for an effective date."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALEX MALTER,  M.D., President, Alaska State  Medical Association,                                                               
testified on  HB 434,  and answered  questions from  the members.                                                               
He  urged the  members  not to  support this  bill.   Dr.  Malter                                                               
provided the following statement:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The expansion  of naturopaths' scope of  practice would                                                                    
     not enhance  patient care, nor would  it improve access                                                                    
     to  care.   Training for  naturopaths is  less rigorous                                                                    
     for that  of medical doctors  in both length  and depth                                                                    
     of study.   The  emphasis on  natural healing  does not                                                                    
     allow sufficient time for its students to fully learn                                                                      
      the accepted pathology, physiology, and pharmacology                                                                      
     necessary to treat most medical conditions.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR. MALTER  pointed to  Attachment 1  [The Professional  Scope of                                                               
Practice  for   Naturopaths]  in  the  packet   provided  to  the                                                               
committee  which  was  compiled  by the  [Alaska  Association  of                                                               
Naturopathic   Physicians,  Inc.]   and  which   shows  different                                                               
treatment techniques studied  by naturopaths.  He said  this is a                                                               
broad  list  and it  is  important  to note  that  pharmaceutical                                                               
treatment  is at  the bottom  of the  list.   He said  it is  the                                                               
Alaska State  Medical Association's  position that four  years of                                                               
training and  two years of  clinical training is not  enough time                                                               
to master that  entire list and still become  proficient at using                                                               
prescription drugs.   He said that  he is not convinced  that the                                                               
first two years  of naturopath school and medical  school are the                                                               
same.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR. MALTER said  he believes that for any courses  that cover the                                                               
material in  similar depth medical  students are  better prepared                                                               
to  learn  that  material  because admission  to  medical  school                                                               
requires  extensive  undergraduate  science background  and  then                                                               
passing rigorous competitive exams.   He referred to Attachment 2                                                               
[Table 17.  Nonexclusive list of schools  providing education and                                                               
training   for  naturopaths,   2000.]  and   explained  that   by                                                               
comparison there  are no similar  admission tests  for naturopath                                                               
schools and some do not even  require a college degree to get in,                                                               
he said.   More importantly,  medical students spend at  least an                                                               
additional four  years in school and  residency before licensure.                                                               
These  clinical  years  emphasize  the appropriate  safe  use  of                                                               
medicines and are  the backbone of physician  training, he added.                                                               
Naturopath programs do not require  such residencies and the last                                                               
two years  of their schools  focus on alternative  treatments, he                                                               
said.   Physicians can't be  licensed after medical  school; they                                                               
are  licensed two  years later.   The  bill before  the committee                                                               
would  allow   naturopaths  to   be  licensed   after  completing                                                               
naturopath   school  and   not  doing   any  clinical   focus  on                                                               
pharmacological agents.   This could  be unsafe for  Alaskans, he                                                               
emphasized.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DR. MALTER told the members  that some individuals would say that                                                               
naturopaths are  better educated than  PAs.  He said  he believes                                                               
that  it  is  not  the  amount of  schooling  that  qualifies  an                                                               
individual,  it  is the  focus  of  that training.    Physician's                                                               
assistants  are immersed  in the  safe use  of medicines  and are                                                               
therefore  more  qualified  even  though their  training  may  be                                                               
slightly less than a naturopath.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1398                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DR. MALTER  told the  members that  a comprehensive  analysis for                                                               
Massachusetts  Special   Commission  on   Complimentary  Medicine                                                               
concluded that naturopathic medicine  is a dangerous activity and                                                               
no amount  of regulation  is likely  to mitigate  this fact.   He                                                               
said that  Medicare has also  expressed similar  reservations and                                                               
asked  the  members  to  look  at  Attachment  3  [Conclusion  of                                                               
Medicare's  Report on  Naturopaths,  U.S.  Department of  Health,                                                               
Education,   and   Welfare,   Independent   Practitioners   under                                                               
Medicare, December, 1968] which reads as follows:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Conclusions:  Naturopathic theory  and practice are not                                                                    
     based  on  the  body  of  basic  knowledge  related  to                                                                    
     health, disease, and health care  which has been widely                                                                    
     accepted  by  the   scientific  community.    Moreover,                                                                    
     irrespective of  its theory, the  scope and  quality of                                                                    
     naturopathic education do  not prepare the practitioner                                                                    
     to make  an adequate diagnosis and  provide appropriate                                                                    
     treatment.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR. MALTER  told the members that  he personally has cared  for a                                                               
patient  who  died  prematurely  because she  had  been  under  a                                                               
naturopath's care  for six months  for chronic  fatigue syndrome.                                                               
He explained  that when  she came  to him  she had  very advanced                                                               
lymphoma  and died  quite quickly  of a  disease that  would have                                                               
been either curable or certainly  easily treatable to prolong her                                                               
life.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR. MALTER  emphasized that  he believes  expanding the  scope of                                                               
the  30  naturopaths in  Alaska  is  really unlikely  to  improve                                                               
access  to care.   He  said he  is not  aware of  any naturopaths                                                               
practicing in parts  of the state where access  is most critical.                                                               
The association  believes it would  be unwise and unsafe  for the                                                               
state to  endorse the practice  of naturopathy by  granting these                                                               
folks  prescriptive  authority  and  urged  the  members  not  to                                                               
support the bill, Dr. Malter concluded.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1539                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SEATON   commented    that   naturopath   is   a                                                               
nonregulated  term and  he noted  that Dr.  Malter used  the term                                                               
frequently in  his testimony.   This bill deals  exclusively with                                                               
naturopathic physicians.   He  pointed out  that this  bill would                                                               
restrict  the use  of the  term naturopath  to only  naturopathic                                                               
physicians  in the  future.   Right  now anyone  can  hang out  a                                                               
shingle  that  says  naturopath,  so the  requirement  that  only                                                               
naturopathic  physicians can  use  the term  will guarantee  some                                                               
medical expertise to  that term, he said.   Representative Seaton                                                               
asked if Dr. Malter has distinguished between the two terms.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1585                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DR. MALTER responded  that the only requirement  to be considered                                                               
a naturopathic physician  is that an individual would  have to go                                                               
through a  naturopathic school or  program.  He said  his concern                                                               
is that in some  cases a person does not even  have to go through                                                               
high  school to  get  into  the program.    In  many cases  these                                                               
programs  do  not even  require  much  of a  science  background;                                                               
however,  he acknowledged  that  these individuals  must pass  an                                                               
exam.   Dr. Malter  posed the question  of whether  the committee                                                               
want to  endorse someone as a  physician who had four  years of a                                                               
graduate program,  but who has  had minimal training in  the safe                                                               
and appropriate clinical use of pharmaceuticals.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  emphasized that  naturopathic  physicians                                                               
have  been licensed  in  Alaska for  17  years, not  naturopaths.                                                               
Many  of the  people that  are being  mentioned are  not actually                                                               
naturopathic physicians, he  clarified.  It is  important to keep                                                               
the terms straight, Representative Seaton emphasized.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MALTER said  he appreciates  what  Representative Seaton  is                                                               
saying, but  pointed out that  if the  committee were to  look at                                                               
the requirements to  attend these schools it would  be found that                                                               
there are no required undergraduate  science classes.  He said it                                                               
is  the  Alaska  State  Medical Association's  feeling  that  the                                                               
legislature should  be cautious  about endorsing the  practice in                                                               
any way that might suggest to  residents of Alaska that the state                                                               
is really endorsing the practice.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[HB 434 was taken up again later in this hearing.]                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 5:20 p.m. to 5:29 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB 434-NATUROPATHIC MEDICINE                                                                                                  
Number 0611                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  returned attention to  HOUSE BILL NO. 434,  "An Act                                                               
relating to the practice of  naturopathic medicine; and providing                                                               
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  told the members  that the working  document before                                                               
the committee is CSHB 434, Version Q, Mischel, 4/24/04.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0581                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA COTTING,  Staff to Representative Jim  Holm, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, testified on behalf  of Representative Holm, sponsor                                                               
of HB 434.  She said that much  of what is in this version of the                                                               
bill  was a  result  of collaboration  between  Chair Wilson  and                                                               
Linda Anderson.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0520                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LINDA  ANDERSON,  Lobbyist,  Naturopaths Association  of  Alaska,                                                               
testified on  HB 434.   For the  record she corrected  an earlier                                                               
statement  by  Ms.  Cotting  that she  and  Chair  Wilson  worked                                                               
collaboratively on the bill; they did  not, but she did bring the                                                               
bill  to  the   Chair  earlier  today,  she  said.     There  are                                                               
compromises included  in the bill  and on-going  discussions with                                                               
individual medical doctors are continuing.   This same version is                                                               
currently  in the  other body  of  the legislature  as well,  she                                                               
added.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDERSON  told the members that  the key changes in  the bill                                                               
is that  the legislation  will remove all  schedule 2  drugs from                                                               
the naturopathic  physicians' ability  to prescribe.   The thrust                                                               
of  the compromise  of this  legislation is  that this  bill will                                                               
allow naturopaths  to prescribe,  but in doing  so they  would be                                                               
required to enter  into a collaborative agreement  with a medical                                                               
doctor  and that  medical doctor  will  agree to  a formulary  of                                                               
prescriptions.    So in  this  bill  naturopaths could  prescribe                                                               
legendary drugs and schedules 3, 4,  and 5 drugs.  That agreement                                                               
will be  on a case-by-case  basis depending on  those naturopaths                                                               
and their specialties.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 0377                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ANDERSON  summarized  that  if   a  naturopath  can  find  a                                                               
physician  to  enter  into a  collaborative  agreement  then  the                                                               
naturopath will have  a tailored prescriptive ability.   The bill                                                               
also includes  peer review.   It  simply says  since there  is no                                                               
board, the  Division of Occupational  Licensing will  oversee the                                                               
regulations and the  complaints will be filed,  the division will                                                               
pick  up the  file and  call a  group of  identified naturopathic                                                               
physicians who  would review the  complaints.  Ms.  Anderson said                                                               
the bill  suggests that  the group  meet quarterly;  however, the                                                               
division  has said  that quarterly  meetings  are not  necessary.                                                               
She added that there has been fewer that one complaint a year.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDERSON  pointed out that  another key  part of the  bill is                                                               
that  collaborative agreements  are  repealed  after four  years.                                                               
The idea is  that after the medical communities  have worked with                                                               
naturopathic physicians  and medical physicians the  track record                                                               
will speak for  itself.  She said she believes  there will not be                                                               
any further need for collaboration.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANDERSON  pointed out  that in  14 other  states naturopathic                                                               
physicians  are given  prescriptive authority.   Naturopaths  are                                                               
willing to  meet that  test of collaborative  work to  assure the                                                               
public safety for Alaskans.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 0179                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ANDERSON  commented  that  many of  the  members  heard  Dr.                                                               
Malter's  testimony   and  were  provided  with   information  on                                                               
naturopath programs.   She told the  members that not one  of the                                                               
programs  that  he listed  are  from  federally approved  medical                                                               
schools for naturopaths.   Ms. Anderson stated that  this bill is                                                               
only addressing  those individuals who  have attended one  of the                                                               
five federally recognized medical  schools for naturopaths in the                                                               
nation.   It  is  a very  different list,  she  emphasized.   Dr.                                                               
Malter provided  the committee  with a list  of schools  that are                                                               
not currently regulated at all, she stated.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[HB 434 was held in committee.]                                                                                                 

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